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Hello Everyone,
I have started Azathioprine today, after a false start last week (suspected naproxen and Azathioprine interaction, caused dizziness and pins and needles). I took various NSAIDs alone for over 40 years, but after a particularly difficult couple of years , I have been on methotrexate, etanacept, Leflunomide, tocillizumab and abatacept, all with various side effects, or in the case of enbrel (which i loved) causing infection, that made it necessary to discontinue all. Has anyone any experience of Azathioprine , good or bad , so I can know what to expect. Thanks so much in anticipation.
Jennyxx
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I'm sorry you have had s many problems with the RA drugs, Jenny and hope the Azathioprine is your wonder drug.
I have no experience of this myself, but just want to wish you all the best.
Love Jeanx
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Hi Jenny
I started Azathioprine 2 months ago (along with Humira). I did find it made me feel ill if I stepped up the dose too quickly, so I went one tablet for 3 weeks, then one and a half for 3 weeks, then two. I did need to take anti-sickness tablets initially as well! The aim was to get to 3 tablets!! Splitting the dose helped ie half in the morning and half at tea time - but it does need to be taken with food to reduce the sickness and dizziness. I take stemitel for the sickness.
Unfortunately I have had loads of infections since being on it and needed antibiotics 3 times, so I have now been told to have 3 days off completely, then just take 1 tablet until I go the hospital in 2 weeks time! (they made me an urgent appointment). I am still on antibiotics for a urine infection, having still got a chest infection. Having had no infections for about 4 years, I am suspicious that the combination is reducing my immune system too much... although I have to say that Humira and Aza were doing a good job on the RA together. The Humira alone, was also needing steroids, just 1 mg a day.
So I would say, try it but split the dose - ie half a tablet in the morning and half in the evening - and take it with food. And perhaps step up the dose much slower than they suggest, especially if you feel sick. When I got up to 2 tablets I wasn't having any problems with sickness etc, it was just initially.
I also couldn't tolerate MTX, sulphasalazine, leflunomide. I had hoped azathioprine was going to work... but the jury is still out!!
Let me know how you get on.
love Anne x
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Hi Anne,
Thank you so much for replying, it is really to good to learn of your experiences, although I have had RA for years, I am fairly new to all these new drugs. I too, have infections but in artificial joints, and this has caused me quite a lot of angst. I have just started Azathioprine again, today 25 mg at breakfast and 25 at dinner, and the pins and needles have started in my hands again. Just so long as the dizziness doesn't start again, I am so frightened of falling, because my knees and hips are pretty frail these days. If the side effects start badly, I shall look into reducing the dose, luckily, so far no sickness. Don't know how you manage Humira as well! Take care, and wishing you very well, please keep in touch, I will be posting on progress!!
Jennyxx
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jeanb wrote:I'm sorry you have had s many problems with the RA drugs, Jenny and hope the Azathioprine is your wonder drug.
I have no experience of this myself, but just want to wish you all the best.
Love Jeanx Thank you so much Jean Jennyxx
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Good luck with the azathioprine Jenny. Hope it works well for you without too many side effects.
Love Doreen xx
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Thank you so much, Doreen, On my second day now, and so far so good, spoiled a little, by just receiving a letter from my consultant saying he would like to gradually raise dose to 125 mg, which fills me with horror. Take care,
Jennyxx
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Hi Jenny
I just looked at my box... and found I was supposed to get to 150mg!! Well the most I ever got to was 100 mg!! The biggest problem was with the few first weeks on 50mg a day (hence splitting it into 2 x 25 mg), then I just increased 25 mg a month!! Although it is fair to say the side effects decreased over time!
I have to say it did work on my joints - no more swelling at all!! But I'm getting too many infections. Now just starting some different antibiotics to add to the other one... but I can have the 3 days off azathioprine!
Interestingly the Humira has been fine and I have not had a single side effect from it!!
So hopefully your next few days will go ok.
Anne
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Thanks so much for your info, Anne, I have these rotten pins and needles again, and a slight feeling my heart is racing, a couple of hours after taking the first tablet. I'm with you, I cannot imagine taking more! At the moment I am only taking paracetamol and codeine as well, and to be honest, don't feel very good. I'm a bit fed up with the whole thing. Glad to hear Humira is good for you, I think I might ask about it at my next appointment. Once again, thanks so much and take care. Jennyxx
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Just to post that I am now officially off Azathioprine, and the dreadful hacking cough I developed, has miraculously disappeared, thank goodness, still have pins and needles, and am going into hospital for a few checks, MRI etc., and some lovely hydrotherapy, almost as good as a holiday!! Jennyxx
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Hi Jenny
I've now been told to stop the Azathipprine as I still can't shift these infections!! Been told I can up the steroids in the meantime while they decided what to do!! I can still take the Humira so I know I shouldn't get a major flair... but my joints are now beginning to hurt again! Although nothing like they were!!
Azathioprine is obviously working for me... but not much good if I get infections all the time!! Sounds like you've had similar problems.
I have pins and needles all the time (from having had Guillain barre) - so it's difficult for me to tell if certain drugs make it worse.
Hope they come up with something good for you soon.
Anne
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Hi Anne, It's really weird how these drugs cause so many side effects, and different ones for each person. I must admit, I 'm a bit fed up with the whole business, but my doctors have tried so hard to help, that I feel I should try all that is suggested. Regarding the pins and needles, mine are getting worse, and I was hoping Azathioprine was causing them, but it's strange, because they started when I started the drug, but now the pain in my lower spine is excruxiating. Doctors, think that arthritis in neck and spine is The more likely cause, hence forthcoming MRI.
Infections caused by Dmards and Biologics are miserable aren 't they?, taking so much out of one. I do so hope you too, can get your medication correct, and hoping we can enjoy what is left of the summer.
Take lots of care, good to hear from, speak again,
Jennyxx
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